{"id":507,"date":"2010-12-23T10:24:52","date_gmt":"2010-12-23T09:24:52","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com\/?p=507"},"modified":"2013-03-11T09:34:13","modified_gmt":"2013-03-11T08:34:13","slug":"who-is-for-or-against-jesus","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com\/?p=507","title":{"rendered":"Who is for or against Jesus?"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #b22222\">Against him<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n\t<em>13 He who is not with Me is against Me; and he who does not gather with Me scatters.<\/em><br \/>\n\t<strong>NASBu&nbsp; Matthew 12:30, Luke 11:23<\/strong><br \/>\n\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #b22222\">For him<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n\t<em>40 For he who is not against us is for us.<\/em><br \/>\n\t<strong>NASBu&nbsp; Mark 9:40<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><em>&hellip; for he who is not against you is for you.<\/em><br \/>\n\t<strong>NASBu&nbsp; Luke 9:50<\/strong><br \/>\n\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #008000\"><a href=\"http:\/\/skepticsannotatedbible.com\/contra\/withme.html\">SAB Contradiction 458<\/a>&nbsp;<\/span><\/strong><br \/>\n\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>Where is the Bible Contradiction?<\/h3>\n<p>Sab says that there is a contradiction, but I don&rsquo;t see any contradiction.<br \/>\n\tThesis 1 and 2 are in perfect harmony, and it is quite shocking that SAB fails to see that.&nbsp;<br \/>\n\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>Thesis 1: Against him<\/h3>\n<p>&#39;Those who are not with Jesus are against him.&#39; Meaning: Those who reject Jesus&rsquo; ideas are against him. Or: Those who are not in harmony with his ideas\/words are against him.<br \/>\n\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>Thesis 2: For him<\/h3>\n<p>&#39;Those who are not against Jesus are for him.&#39; Meaning: Those who do not reject Jesus&rsquo; ideas are for him. Or: Those who are in harmony with his ideas\/words are for him.<br \/>\n\tHere and now: Many people do not reject Jesus&rsquo; ideas and don&rsquo;t want to reject him in spite of SAB activities and suchlike.<br \/>\n\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>Together<\/h3>\n<p>Thesis 1: The foes of Jesus are those who are negative about his ideas\/words and about <em>him<\/em>.<br \/>\n\tThesis 2: The friends of Jesus are those who are not negative about his ideas\/words and about <em>him<\/em>.<br \/>\n\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>Mathematically<\/h3>\n<p>The equation is:<br \/>\n\tnot with me = against me (thesis 1)<br \/>\n\tThe rule is to omit or to add on both sides the same element. Here &lsquo;not&rsquo;.<br \/>\n\tThat gives:<br \/>\n\tNot not with me = not against me<br \/>\n\tA double negation is positive, so:<br \/>\n\tWith me = not against me (thesis 2)<br \/>\n\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<h3>Answering the Atheist<\/h3>\n<p>This is all pretty consistent. SAB seems to be confused and confusing, not Jesus Christ.<br \/>\n\tIt is clear that Jesus didn&rsquo;t preach a gospel of &lsquo;Follow me, or burn forever&rsquo;, but rather &lsquo;Love my ideas\/words and I will show my love\/myself to you&rsquo;<br \/>\n\t&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p><strong><span style=\"color: #0000ff\">No Bible Contradiction<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<p>&nbsp;<\/p>\n<!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on the_content --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on the_content -->","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>The Bible critic claims a contradiction in Jesus&#8217; words: &#8216;He who is not with Me, is against Me,&#8217; and &#8216;He who is not against Me (us), is for Me (us).&#8217; But is that a contradiction? <!-- AddThis Advanced Settings generic via filter on wp_trim_excerpt --><!-- AddThis Share Buttons generic via filter on wp_trim_excerpt --><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":4,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"closed","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[48,50,51],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-507","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-luke","category-mark","category-matthew"],"aioseo_notices":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/507","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/users\/4"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcomments&post=507"}],"version-history":[{"count":5,"href":"https:\/\/www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/507\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":1884,"href":"https:\/\/www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com\/index.php?rest_route=\/wp\/v2\/posts\/507\/revisions\/1884"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fmedia&parent=507"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Fcategories&post=507"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/www.contradictingbiblecontradictions.com\/index.php?rest_route=%2Fwp%2Fv2%2Ftags&post=507"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}